Let’s Talk History


For many Liverpool fans the biggest game of  the Premier League season is the home and away ties against Manchester United. For me that is horse shit, for me the biggest games of the Premier League season for Liverpool are the ones against the blue noses from across the Stanley Park. You know who I am talking about, the team who recently erected a curtain to stop the view of Liverpool’s new Main Stand, the team that will always be living in Liverpool’s shadow

I am not going to talk about Everton here, no I am going to talk about some Liverpool fans hatred of everything Manchester United. 


If you look in the dictionary the definition of hatred is as follows; “hatred intense dislike; hate.”racial hatred”synonyms: loathing, hate, detestation, dislike, distaste, abhorrence, abomination, execration, resentment, aversion, hostility, ill will, ill feeling, bad feeling; enmity, animosity, antagonism, antipathy, bitterness, animus, revulsion, disgust, contempt, repugnance, odium, rancour; raredisrelish”full of hatred and bitterness” 

Now for me personally there are very few things in life that I hate, some of them include people who smile to your face while stabbing you in the back, paying bloody car tax and those who abuse the memory of the dead at football matches trying to antagonise the opposition fans.

Unlike the majority of Liverpool fans I do not hate Manchester United, I admire them for what they have  achieved over the last twenty six years, the same way the older generation of United fans admire the achievements of Liverpool under Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley, Joe Fagan and Kenny Dalglish. I am sure those of you who are old enough to remember attending games in the 60’s and 70’s will tell you the hatred between Liverpool and Manchester United was as no way intense as it is now.

That got me to thinking, why do a full generation of Liverpool fans hate Manchester United? Has it got something to do with the whole I am going to knock them off their perch speech by Sir Alex Ferguson when he took over at Old Trafford, which he did not manage to do just for the record. Or does the hatred stem from seeing United clean up in the major silverware stakes over the last twenty plus years while Liverpool were under going a rebuilding project every three to four years and never managed to lift that elusive Premier League trophy.

As I already said the titles won by United and the manner in which they won them is to be admired. They backed their manager through thick and thin and it paid dividends for them over the years Ferguson was at the helm.


Let us talk about history now, Manchester United’s most successful manager, Sir Matt Busby was an ex Liverpool player, in fact after he retired from football Bill Shankly asked him to join his coaching staff, an offer Busby kindly refused and headed to Old Trafford to take on the managers job. 

Unlike managers today, there was no sulking from Shankly, and  both himself and Busby remained firm friends up until the day Busby died. 

In his most recent autobiography Red or Dead, Shankly spoke of how he would ring Busby up on a regular basis and talk tactics and football with him. I think in his own way Shankly was proud of what Busby had achieved at United. 

After the Munich air disaster which saw a number of Manchester United players pass away, Shankly had no problem in sending five Liverpool first team players, to Old Trafford and happy to pay their wages in order to allow Manchester United finish out their domestic season. 

This is the history between Liverpool and Manchester United some fans do not know or want to seem to ignore and live in a world of ignorant bliss. Liverpool and Manchester United have always been interlocked. They are the most successful English clubs ever. Between them they have won more league titles then the rest of the current Premier League teams combined. They have won more European Cups between them then most of the teams Europe’s elite leagues combined have. 

Both clubs fan base stretches from North America to South Korea and further afield. For me without Liverpool there would be no Manchester United and Vice Versa. While Liverpool are currently enjoying a bit of a rejuvenation under new manager Jürgen Klopp and Manchester United under going their third rebuilding project since 2013 I think it is only a matter of time before both of England’s giants will be battling it out again for supremacy in both the Premier League and in European competitions.


So the next time youbsee or hear a Liverpool singing about what happened that faithful night in Munich or you see a Liverpool fan mocking Munich, just remember the good faith shown by Liverpool’s greatest ever manager to his friend and ex colleague Sir  Matt Busby, hopefully that will make you think twice about it. 

And while Manchester IS full of shit, for me Goodison Park is full of shit, shit and more shit, but with Everton been Liverpool’s nearest rivals, who’s team that share the same city as Liverpool FC, who’s ground is a stone throws away from Anfield, who’s fans base think big every season only to be disappointed every year – remember the whole we’re rich chants from the start of this season and who’s fan base count themselves as a big team and who’s fans count it as a successful season if they beat Liverpool once in any competition, that for me is why the rivalry between Liverpool and Manchester United does not even come close to the rivalry between Liverpool and Everton.

Written by @TheMoanyOne

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